Nosler has blinked ...............

[Cariboo]

In the "war of bullets" it appears Nosler is looking to gain market share. After bad-mouthing the Barnes line of bullets for some time now on their own talk forum Nosler has just today announced their own line of "lead free" bullets - the Nosler E-Tip .

These are supposed to be on dealers shelves sometime this coming fall in 180 grain .30 calibre.


http://www.nosler.com/index.php?p=12

Nosler, the world’s foremost bullet manufacturer, is proud to unveil a new lead free bullet for 2007. The E-Tip® is a revolution in bullet construction and performance.

Nosler’s E-Tip® is built on a highly concentric gilding metal frame, which provides unsurpassed penetration and weight retention. The polycarbonate tip, much like those featured on AccuBond® and Ballistic Tip® bullets, prevents deformation in the magazine, boosts aerodynamic efficiency, and initiates expansion.

Nosler’s exclusive E² Cavity™ (Energy Expansion Cavity™) allows for immediate and uniform expansion yet retains 95%+ weight for improved penetration. Initiated by a unique OD green polycarbonate tip, the E² Cavity provides amazing stopping power and peerless penetration over a broad spectrum of impact velocities.

Along with the E² Cavity and the polycarbonate tip, Nosler’s E-Tip® also features a precisely formed boat-tail that serves to reduce drag and provides a more efficient flight profile for higher retained energy at long range.

For big game hunting or recreational shooting, Nosler’s E-Tip® is a step above today’s “pure-copper” bullets. The E-Tip’s® proven patent pending alloy provides less fouling, while exhibiting superior accuracy and consistent performance over traditional pure copper designs. In the lead free world, the E-Tip® stands alone.
Will be available in 30cal. 180gr.

[Boxhitch]

Soon to appear in a 4 groove version, to help reduce fouling ??

[Mauser98]

If they would bring them out in .358 and 9.3 mm I could get interested

[greybeard]

Hi: Thank You for posting all this neat information. Good Hunting

[Downwindtracker]

They are going to use a gilding metal alloy,so as to avoid the copper fouling. An interesting idea to use a plastic tip.

[martini]

I think that he TSX has gained too much market share for Nosler to ever catch up, the TSX have a glorious reputation for accuracy, performance with no fouling- Nosler is way too late,

I am sure that they are doing this for the pending "lead ban" that is coming,

[leonard]

If they can get em to shoot like the SST's Ive been running ill def give it a shot.. so far Ive had alot of trouble getting the TSX to shoot groups that are even 1moa let alone better so this Success that people have been having im starting to wonder how myself.

[1savagehunter]

Leonard what are you shooting the TSX in ... I haven't seen a gun that the TSX haven't been accutate in? I was SO scared when I switched from Partitions to TSX in my .338 but since have totally switched over for all my guns and haven't looked back.
I will be interested to see how the price will compare between the two!

[Cariboo]

Originally Posted by 1savagehunter

I will be interested to see how the price will compare between the two!

The rumour is that they are looking at a price somewhere between their Partition Bullet and the Barnes TSX.

[Spitzer]

Very interesting, now there's another new thing to try. I hope they're not overly long that it interrupts powder capacity.

[1savagehunter]

Well if the price is cheaper than TSX I'll give them a try ... so many good bullets so little money and time to shoot.

[leonard]

savage.. its in a .308 rugger M77 .. shoots .25-.50 3shot groups with the 150 SST's .. but i cant get these damn TSX to go under a inch for anything. tried 30thou off lands 50thou off lands.. still to do 70 tho. but also worked alot of loads up with IMR 4064 no great luck its disappointing because these look like bad ass bullets.

[1savagehunter]

Man Leonard sounds like you've been going about it right but ... man that really sucks. I've seen gun's that won't shoot a certain bullet (my .338 refuses to shoot Accubonds ... PERIOD) but man what a deadly bullet to not shoot. Let me talk to Tripleshocker ... if anyone can get a TSX to fly it will be him. I'll give him a call tomorrow and get him to look over some options.
Well til then good shooting with SST's !!!

[leonard]

ya im gona try some new brass this weekend (hopefully it comes in) . here. and keep it at about 50 off the lands .. try afew dif loads.. but for the price, if i dont get these shooting half decent out of this box of 50 ill probably leave em on the shelf next time. at about a buck or so a shot just for the leads"coppers" it seems silly almost if im wasting tons just to get a group shooting within a inch or better.

[tripleshocker]

Leonard,

For your 308 try the 150gr tripleshock with as many suitable powders as you have on your bench. The best are usually RL12,15 or Varget. Once you find the most accurate propellant then experiment with seating depth, primers etc. Remember to only change one variable at a time. In the end if 4064 is producing one inch or slightly bigger groups there is nothing wrong with that. Sometimes it is worth it to sacrifice some accuracy in the name of better terminal performance. From the shooting positions available in the field, It's unlikely anyone could notice the difference between a 0.5 inch load and a 2.5 inch load anyway. I know I can't. Oh, and you probably already know this, but clean your bore with cr10 prior to any further shooting. Be patient and do it thouroughly. (can take a long time) I have seen this cut groups in half. Little tricks like neck sizing only and primer pocket deburring can also shrink group sizes if you aren't already doing this. Best of luck.

Tripleshocker