2010 BC LEH regs now online

[Cariboo]

As the title states.


http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/wildlife.../leh_10_11.pdf

[MD]

Pretty good eh?

[jdmck]

Take note the entries must be submitted earlier this year by May 21st about a month ealier than past years(only tell your friends)
john

[BigIron]

Oh Great. An earlier shot at the Fabled NILdaBeast!



Alberta is already booked, as I rather strongly suspect this year's outcome will be exactly like the last SEVEN: NIL!

Iron

[Fisher-Dude]

Some great strides have been made this year. WT does on GOS! WK elk on GOS! This is the best looking LEH synopsis I've seen for years! Less LEH, more GOS is THE way to go! Finally, some regulations that make SENSE!

Sorry IronNog, blaming Gordo for converting stupid LEH to awesome GOS is not helping your cause. Better tell your shop steward you need some new material for your constant Gordo-bashing.

[kenkell1]

I agree with you FD, about time they made some good changes and this is going to be a great year of hunting...and I am glad they opened those damn white tails...they need a serious thin out!

[BigIron]

Originally Posted by Fisher-Dude

Some great strides have been made this year.
Sorry IronNog, blaming Gordo for converting stupid LEH to awesome GOS is not helping your cause. Better tell your shop steward you need some new material for your constant Gordo-bashing.

While I cannot help but be pleased with some of the mentioned changes (most in fact), I had to laugh over your following statement!

What makes you think that particular Eh-H had anything to do with it whatsoever (besides simply happening under his watch?). Nope, no Kudos to that Swine from me. In fact, as you likely are aware, I DETEST him more than any other politician I've had the misfortune to run across.

Cheers,
Nog

[mike]

I must admit we need to get are buck to doe ratio in better shape but opening up a general season that long is not going to be good for the population in the long run. We need to protect are bucks better than we do to build a stronger gene pool for the future success. With the open white-tail season in some areas running at the same time as the cow elk leh in the kootenays those deer are going to get hammered by all the friends of the tag holder along for the trip.

[Fisher-Dude]

Originally Posted by mike

I must admit we need to get are buck to doe ratio in better shape but opening up a general season that long is not going to be good for the population in the long run. We need to protect are bucks better than we do to build a stronger gene pool for the future success. With the open white-tail season in some areas running at the same time as the cow elk leh in the kootenays those deer are going to get hammered by all the friends of the tag holder along for the trip.

In many states in the US where whitetail populations have grown like ours are, you have to shoot does before you're even allowed to harvest a buck. In one state (forget which one, but it may be Vermont), you have to shoot SIX does in a season before you may take a buck.

Not sure how you think we can "build a gene pool" among WTs? Genetics are what they are, and as hunters, we can't affect a WT deer population enough with hunting to alter any genetic traits in the long run. They are too elusive and too prolific for hunters to have any effect. Our buck to doe ratios only need to be about 4:100 to ensure successful breeding, but we target 20:100 in BC. Most populations have good ratios.

Moreover, WTs are nearing carrying capacity in many regions, including in your back yard in region 4, and if we don't get the population down a bit, we're going to have another die off like we had in 96/97/98 that will decimate the herds again. WTs are best managed at about 60 - 70% of CC, and we can harvest way more animals from a population carried at that level. We can't reduce the population by shooting bucks, so we need to harvest some does.

Read Ian Hatter's study on WT deer management. It may help you understand the management goals we are putting in place. Hopefully, your mind is open enough, and not simply stuck on trying to keep hunters "out of your area" because of a misguided fear about the upcoming season.

[kenkell1]

I think white tails should be exterminated

[Willey]

Wow, I hear they are putting bull elk in the west kootenays on GOS at some point during the season. This is an absolute JOKE. They have some of the biggest bulls around. Within 3-4 years the huge bulls will be wiped out and it will end up being just like the east kootenay lots of elk and nothing huge. Huge I mean 340 +. What would have been wrong with giving out more LEH tags, atleast they can monitor the numbers being shot and and not eliminate all the big bulls.
I'm not sure if the WT does are going to GOS in the east kootenays, I certainly hope not. Maybe someone can answer this.

[kenkell1]

Originally Posted by Willey

Wow, I hear they are putting bull elk in the west kootenays on GOS at some point during the season. This is an absolute JOKE. They have some of the biggest bulls around. Within 3-4 years the huge bulls will be wiped out and it will end up being just like the east kootenay lots of elk and nothing huge. Huge I mean 340 +. What would have been wrong with giving out more LEH tags, atleast they can monitor the numbers being shot and and not eliminate all the big bulls.
I'm not sure if the WT does are going to GOS in the east kootenays, I certainly hope not. Maybe someone can answer this.

Have you ever hunted the West Kootenays??? Steep, thick and not easily accessible.
The big guys will be there and not wiped out.
I wouldn't be too worried about 340 bulls...there is a reason they are that big and if you think there aren't any bulls that big in the East Kootenays then I suggest you put down your coffee cup and and venture away from your pickup once in a while while hunting

[nameless]

And in this corner in the blue trunks..........lets get it on!!!!!!

[Willey]

Originally Posted by kenkell1

Have you ever hunted the West Kootenays??? Steep, thick and not easily accessible.
The big guys will be there and not wiped out.
I wouldn't be too worried about 340 bulls...there is a reason they are that big and if you think there aren't any bulls that big in the East Kootenays then I suggest you put down your coffee cup and and venture away from your pickup once in a while while hunting

Wow that was a good one. And yes I have been in on hunts in the west koots. As far as venturing away from my truck no problem there either. . I know certain areas real well in the west kootenays. It's not all steep over there, some spots very accesible. The reason they are that big over there is they are allowed to live longer and grow bigger. It has more to do with how long they get to live over there versus the terrain. Plain and simple they don't kill off the elk each year in the west like they do in the east, so they are allowed to live longer. Ya there will always be some big bulls in the east koots and when I said 340+ I mean 340+, 350, 360, 380 etc. I believe these types of bulls are real hard to find in the east, but not as tough to find in the west because there is way more of them. If the east koots has all these big bulls like you say then why are hunters continiously trying to get drawn in the west? There are alot more big bulls in the west than in the east, it's common knowledge, but over a short period I believe the west will be similar to the east for quality of bulls.

[horshur]

Originally Posted by Willey

Wow that was a good one. And yes I have hunted in the west koots. As far as venturing away from my truck no problem there either. . I know certain areas real well in the west kootenays. It's not all steep over there, some spots very accesible. The reason they are that big over there is they are allowed to live longer and grow bigger. It has more to do with how long they get to live over there versus the terrain. Plain and simple they don't kill off the elk each year in the west like they do in the east, so they are allowed to live longer. Ya there will always be some big bulls in the east koots and when I said 340+ I mean 340+, 350, 360, 380 etc. I believe these types of bulls are real hard to find in the east, but not as tough to find in the west because there is way more of them. If the east koots has all these big bulls like you say then why are hunters continiously trying to get drawn in the west? There are alot more big bulls in the west than in the east, it's common knowledge, but over a short period I believe the west will be similar to the east for quality of bulls.

post up pics of your 340+ bull...